1st ever VO install party!!!!
December 5, 2005 - 11:01am
#52
Sorry to have taken so long, but things have been a little less than optimal at la casa de Murph this morning...Not only am I watching 18 moth old Mini Murph, but my also 18 month old niece is here as well...Yikes...
Anyway...All I can say about Wally's work is HOLY SCHITT!! An absolute work of art. Getting the 25' of 5/8" AL tubing to fit properly in the stock tank with only adding 2 1" holes was amazing. Wally was able to reuse the stock pickup for VO.
Also, thanks to Art and Jon B for the couple of runs to the store to pick up stuff I forgot about. And 604TD (aka The Other Murph :) ) for coming through in the clutch with bulkhead fittings to run the coolant through.
I obviously didn't do nearly enough homework as I should have. Besides the obvoius "know how" - or lack therof on my part, there was a bunch of nuts bolts and other fittings that I needed to tap into Wallys supply of to bail me out and keep the install going.
I can't say thanks enough!!
Andy
December 5, 2005 - 9:52am
#53
Murph, I think you did very well do reseach and gathering all your parts that you have. There are so many parts it's mind boggling plus you're doing custom work so it's not easy by any stretch of the imagination.
December 5, 2005 - 9:52am
#54
Here's doctor Wally, "in deep",
doing the "operation".
December 5, 2005 - 12:57pm
#55
A big thanks for the invite and hospitality to Wally for the tech help and to JP for the room & drinks!
It was a good time and I hope we get to do it again after the holidays.
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December 6, 2005 - 12:09pm
#56
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Originally posted by: Olive Oyl
Hey Wally, is this still a go? I am in Maine with a '96 Suburban that I have not yet converted mainly due to inexperience. Would my vehicle and I (neopyhte that I am) be welcome at this fortuitious learning opportunity? If so, is there anything that I might do in advance to prepare my vehicle and please include a phone number if possible.
OO - did you make it home OK?
Murph
December 30, 2005 - 4:14pm
#57
So Wally put in a vo temp guage and a new after market thermostat in my f250.
I read 168 degrees on the way home.
Good thing I ordered a vegitherm mega, right?
Anyone want one?
January 7, 2006 - 12:11am
#58
IT'S ALIVE!!!
I can't thank Wally and Steve (604TD) enough for the help. I'll fill in the details and some pics tomorrow, =but we started about 430 and finished up 1245...
Wally was up to his usual artwork...
Andy
January 7, 2006 - 3:17pm
#59
Rode around most of the day running on VO...Life can't get much better :)
Here are pics of Wally's handywork...
How's this for a clean install?
A closeup of the yellow handles on top of the upper intake - One of 604TDs ideas - ball valves in the heater lines going to the stock tank (for VO) This way the flow of coolant to the tank can be stopped in the event of a leak or for maintenance..
Fuel gauge for pump diesel and vac/boost gauge on the A pillar. The vac/boost gauge was Wally's idea, this way I can see the restriction of the VO filter as its getting higher without having to pop the hood. Also it provides a more accurate reading of the filter as it shows restriction under load, not at idle like I'd have to do with an underhood gauge.
Here's the Hot Head filter -
And installed on the fan shroud -
Frybrid valves mounted to th firewall -
The valves, Walbro 6065 VO lift pump and the HIH fitting -
Another one of 604's great ideas - clear Lexan installed in the line going to the IP to check for air bubbles
The Doctor cutting away a little of the ABS bracket to get the Frybrid heat exchanger to fit under the hood -
And here's how nicely it fits -
And a special thanks to Lee and the rest of th Greasecar crew for providing the switch that tops off the installation -
I know I've said this more than once, ok, more than a few times...But without Wally I would have never gotten this thing running. 604TD was also there in the clutch to bail my a$$ out.
Andy
January 7, 2006 - 3:58pm
#60
January 7, 2006 - 4:16pm
#61
Look at the pic with Wally and the sawzall, there is a better shot of the HE where you can see the bracket that blocks the center of the coils.
Andy
January 7, 2006 - 4:30pm
#62
oh ok. when i first looked at the pic it look like the veggie filter would just drop right down in the middle. can you remove the bracket?
never mind you mean a bracket on the truck i guess
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January 7, 2006 - 4:36pm
#63
Yeah Murph, looks great how does it run so far? Wallyts work looks real nice, the whole thing turned out to be a nice clean looking install. One teeny ignorant little question, on the heater cut off valves, does that stop the flow of hot coolant entirely or just bypass the heater lines to the tank???
I am wondering if you are cutting off the flow of coolant thru the entire system when you do that, or does the coolant still flow thru the rest of the system??
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January 7, 2006 - 4:52pm
#64
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Originally posted by: ForrestGump
oh ok. when i first looked at the pic it look like the veggie filter would just drop right down in the middle. can you remove the bracket?
never mind you mean a bracket on the truck i guess
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The bracket is tack welded to the HE. I probably could have cut and rewelded, but I didn't want to fawk up the HE...:)
Art - the valves only cut the flow of coolant to the HIH back to the stock tank. Flow to the heater core and rear seat is unaffected...We went up and back all the way to Federal Rd in Danbury this afternoon...Rode like a dream :) No different than on diesel, just a HELLUVALOT cheaper.
Andy
January 7, 2006 - 5:00pm
#65
wow, that wally is a smart peep, batteryboy that is how you should do your wagon
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January 7, 2006 - 5:12pm
#66
How is the hot head filter working out. I may be in the market soon and saw them on vegpower's web site. Good price, but does the canister stay warm? and how much are those Donnelson filters>
Thanks for your help
Q
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2000 Dodge 2500
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January 7, 2006 - 9:01pm
#67
Quote:
Originally posted by: pquevill
How is the hot head filter working out. I may be in the market soon and saw them on vegpower's web site. Good price, but does the canister stay warm? and how much are those Donnelson filters>
Thanks for your help
Q
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Pat Q
2000 Dodge 2500
Banks high-ram and exhaust
pquevill@hotmail.com
Pat - I know the filter head gets hot (duh :) ), but I'm not sure about the filter itself. It gets pretty warm, but is it too hot to touch I don't remember. I'll check tomorrow and let you know. Monday I'll call my local NAPA and see how much the filters are.
Andy
January 7, 2006 - 9:58pm
#68
Hi Andy, nice pic documentary and ride!
Wally did all the work. I was just holding the light, handing him tools and beer. -:)
I just realized that I had what you needed in my bag of tricks, a 50 ft coil of 1/8" soft copper tubing. I was brain dead and forgot I had it. I can hook up the vac gauge when we get together to instrument your burb and take some temperature readings and tweak it, next weekend maybe. Don't buy the kit. Just get a 1/8" compression union to splice into the short line and a 1/8 NPT male compression fitting they're cheap. The 50 ft coil of copper is more than I need and was cheap.
January 8, 2006 - 7:59am
#69
oops,terretts double hit
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January 8, 2006 - 7:59am
#70
Hey Murph were you able to get all the air out of the cooling system??Did return line get hot? Should we add a 12 volt pump for better circulation?Just wondering on the temps so far as Stevie suggested.Also I just fabrcated my own hot plate witch gave me a rise in temp of 10 to 25 degrees ,glad your up and goin and puttin some $$$$$ in your pocket,was a pleasure doin and having you and Stevie to give me a hand, Wally
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January 8, 2006 - 8:12am
#71
January 8, 2006 - 5:19pm
#72
Wally...
The return gets hot, but it still feels soft like there's air in the lines. A pump does sound good, but what kind? A hot rodder's electric water pump or something like these -
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Steve...
If you didn't have the bag of tricks, things would not have gone as smoothly as they did... :)
Andy
January 8, 2006 - 6:15pm
#73
January 8, 2006 - 7:09pm
#74
FG, surprised to hear that fuel pump works great in the coolant circuit. It only has 3/8" I/O. Do you know the GPM and temp rating?Which vehicle are you using it in?
Andy, I'd try bleeding the HIH. With cold engine, shut off the return ball valve, take the hose off and put into a 2 gal bucket, start engine, wait till the bubbles are gone and also and time how many gal comes out in one minute. Do not run it too long and overheat engine. If there's very little flow it could use the help of a pump. Replenish the coolant.
January 8, 2006 - 7:25pm
#75
FG, surprised to hear that fuel pump works great in the coolant circuit. It's only has 3/8" I/O. Do you know the GPM and temp rating?Which vehicle are you using it in?
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this is like the 4th different pump i went through. so far so good. i know the inlet and outlet is small. but i am here to tell you it works great. don't know the rating on it. i have it on the return water line coming off of my 100 gallon veggie tank on my 97 truck. it use to take 100 miles to get the veggie temp from 40 to 100 deg. now with the pump those miles are cut in half. now keep in mind thats 100 gallons of veggie...
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January 8, 2006 - 7:50pm
#76
100 gal!!!??? If I were you I'd hook that trash pump up to get that coolant moving. -:)
Also, with the 100 gal tank full, do you feel it in the truck?
January 10, 2006 - 12:16pm
#77
Quote:
Originally posted by: pquevill
How is the hot head filter working out. I may be in the market soon and saw them on vegpower's web site. Good price, but does the canister stay warm? and how much are those Donnelson filters>
Thanks for your help
Q
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Pat Q
2000 Dodge 2500
Banks high-ram and exhaust
pquevill@hotmail.com
The NAPA p/n for these elements is 3407, and the "friends of NAPA" price is $27. It gets pretty warm, but you can hold it for a while as long as you don't touch the upper rad hose with your wrist...DOH! :)
Forrest - The fuel pump is a great idea, but why in the return line? Wouldn't it be more effective if it was feeding coolant to the rear tank rather than pushing the coolant back towards the engine?
Today was the first day I drove to work after the conversion. It's a 65 mile one way trip and had a schitt eating grin every time I passed a gas station...
Andy
January 10, 2006 - 6:15pm
#78
604 i only feel it when it is have full, even with a baffle....
as far as the pump in the return line. i did it like benz does it. some benz has a 12volt pump in the return line after the heater core to help heat the car in the winter time.. again this info came from Tom M. when he came down and showwed me his 240 benz. the heater has a pump on it. so Tom bought another benz pump ($150.00) and used it on his return water on his veggie tank. and i makes a big diff. well here i am again. i want to find a cheep pump. let me tell you i spent over $320.00 on pumps that didnt last. but this little $30.00 pump works great. and the good thing with this is it draws 1 amp. you can plug it into 110 volts easy if you want to. for the night with a block heater.. I hope this helps. if you put the pump somewhere else please post back and let us know how it is doing..
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What a day,so much work I forgot to eat lunch,Thanks everyone for the company,Stevie,Murph,Art,Jonny Bernz,Donnie J and Sean,and AKA Olive Oil who made a trek all the way down from Maine,Thanks Murph for the fine meal at Pratt's last night,hit the spot,we will finish up that puppy soon and get you going,need time to recoup.We'll give everyone a heads up and maybe some can make it back.Was a great time.Wally
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