At home filtration unit? What do have? Pictures?
May 7, 2006 - 10:36pm
Post what type of filtration system you use for your WVO.
Also, a question: Which type of drums are best for Vegetable Oil. Steel or Plastic.
I have a place in town that sells both for about $45. These are brand new. They have sealed tops with threaded ports for pump and drain and they have removable tops.
Im wanting to build a filtration unit.
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May 8, 2006 - 1:01pm
#2
pair of jeans w/ legs tied shut hanging on a 6 ft step ladder, pump oil in w/ a $4 drill pump, catch oil in cubies w/ big funnel.
slow?
maybe to some, but me and a friend did 120 gal in 2 days. took 4 pairs of pants, though.
oil then goes into steel 55 gal drum w/ hot water element for dewatering. on thru 2 household filters (25, 5 mic.) in into a holding plastic barrel. thru goldenrod 10 mic before car.
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1995 oshkosh step van 4B cummins wvo
1984 mercedes 300DT, in the works
May 8, 2006 - 9:50pm
#3
That's just what I have. One 55 gallon drum for PHWVO, and an other for pure grease; separate but equal.
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2003 Dodge Cummins
May 9, 2006 - 12:24pm
#4
What do you all think of this idea... FG???
Mix of a few different ones.
Pour the oil in the top 5 gal pail and let it filter.
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1987 MB 300SDL "Mazola Benz"
Liberals are like Slinkies...not really good for anything...but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.
May 9, 2006 - 6:00pm
#5
The red funnels on the drum have 60 micron filters inside.. At least 2 days in the drum then goes through the bags - that's a 1 mic inside a 5/1 mic bag into the funnel into the 6 gallon jug that I pour into the truck.
Andy
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98 6.5 'Burb
May 9, 2006 - 8:37pm
#6
That is one nasty looking garage!... No offence.
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1987 MB 300SDL "Mazola Benz"
Liberals are like Slinkies...not really good for anything...but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.
May 10, 2006 - 8:00am
#7
Originally posted by: macthomas
That is one nasty looking garage!... No offence.
Thanks...It DOES keep most people away :)
Andy
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98 6.5 'Burb
May 10, 2006 - 10:00am
#8
And keeps the lady peeps away as well im sure
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Greasy Jan 1021
May 10, 2006 - 6:01pm
#9
Quote:
Originally posted by: greasyjan1021
And keeps the lady peeps away as well im sure
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Greasy Jan 1021
Yup...In it's current condition, I'm fairly certain my pregnant wife will not be joining me in the garage.
I'll take Creating An Estrogen Free Zone, for $1000 please Alex...
Andy
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98 6.5 'Burb
May 10, 2006 - 6:08pm
#10
May 10, 2006 - 8:00pm
#11
2-Blue sock filters wedged between the flower pots. Paint strainers inside the flower pot. Pour cubbies through this then heat and settle for one week. Pump to barrel #2 through 2-5 micron household water filters in line that will normally settle for another week. And use same 2-5 micron filters from barrel #2 to truck tank
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Pat Q
2000 Dodge 2500
Banks High-Ram and Exhaust
Frybrid Conversion 11/05
pquevill@hotmail.com
18,000 miles on WVO
May 10, 2006 - 8:17pm
#12
Quote:
Originally posted by: ForrestGump
to me that garage looks like a very busy guy. always doing something.....
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My garage looks allot like that just allot more Choppers in the way and no filter system Yet.
I always have a new project, getting rid of the choppers, but picking up Benzessssis, posabaly an odd Volvo, or VW. I realaly ought to get back behind a desk but this is way to much fun! (and I get to stay home with my son)
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May 10, 2006 - 11:10pm
#13
Its simple and out doors, but it works.
Kindof a reinvention of the wheel
Erik
May 11, 2006 - 10:19am
#14
Very tidy.
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May 11, 2006 - 10:57am
#15
Wow, this is really giving me an idea of how im going to build my system!
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1985 Mercedes Benz 300D
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May 11, 2006 - 11:21am
#16
I am SO relieved to find someone else with a garage as messy as mine! Can't wait to show the pics to my wife...
On the blue jean pre-filtering: I have a 10" hole in a plywood top covering a barrel, and suspend the bluejeans by the beltloops by screws in the wood. I seal the leg bottoms with hose clamps, dump in oil up as high as the bottom of the zipper. I have an aquarium heater in the bottom of the barrel, and a drain in the barrel about 8" up from the bottom. This way the bottom of the jeans are always in warm oil, but the filtered oil drains off (otherwise the oil would stop filtering through when it got too deep.)
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'84 300D 5-speed sedan
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Bozeman, MT
May 11, 2006 - 2:32pm
#17
Ugh, I can't get the pics to show up. Someone give me the HTML again please.
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2005 VW Golf PD-TDI
May 11, 2006 - 7:12pm
#18
photobucket.com
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Pat Q
2000 Dodge 2500
Banks High-Ram and Exhaust
Frybrid Conversion 11/05
pquevill@hotmail.com
18,000 miles on WVO
May 11, 2006 - 7:45pm
#19
Pat, your not doing enough veggie... your floor is to clean
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I use to be ForrestGump
May 11, 2006 - 9:39pm
#20
Actually funny story last weekend. You can see where the barrels are located. I have since added a 3rd barel for more storage. I hange my blue jean sock filters on the garage door rail to allow them to drain completly before I wash them out and had to run an errand before I headed to MI last weekend. I forgot to tell Lori and she left for town not seeing them. Oh well the garage door closed bringing about 3 gallons of veggie oil along the garage door and proceeded to close and dump all the oil on the floor. When I got home, it was a mess but a bag of catlitter and Easy Off Oven cleaner cleaned it right up. BTW, they leaves are swept out now. 2 best inventions since sliced bread. Really makes the tank nice and shinny as well.
Q
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Pat Q
2000 Dodge 2500
Banks High-Ram and Exhaust
Frybrid Conversion 11/05
pquevill@hotmail.com
18,000 miles on WVO
May 11, 2006 - 11:23pm
#21
I've done that!! I suspended a filter bag from the garage door once, and then it was me -- ME -- who forgot and later shut the garage door!
Fortunately it smacked against the door and splattered, but I caught it right away and didn't have any big spill to clean up . . .
Jeff
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May 12, 2006 - 5:00am
#22
last weekend i pumped 20 gallons on the garage floor. i was tranferring from 55 gallon drum in the truck to a 55 gallon drum in the garage. the garage drum had 6 inches of junk in the bottom. went into the housing. got talking to the wife and forgot. about 1 hour later i said oh shit the pump is running. sure enough about 20 gallons on the floor. i threw 1 gallon of bleach on it and got out the power washer.
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I use to be ForrestGump
May 12, 2006 - 5:42am
#23
OK, let me try this again.
I'm going for the Felix Ungar award:
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2005 VW Golf PD-TDI
May 12, 2006 - 7:16am
#24
Chase - When did you buy that bag filter vessel and what did it cost ? - Thanks
May 12, 2006 - 7:49am
#25
McMasters:
Part# 6870K61
http://www.mcmaster.com/nav/enter.asp?partnum=6870K61&pagenum=327
$282.69, but you also need a cheap pressure gauge, drain plug, and hose fittings.
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2005 VW Golf PD-TDI
May 12, 2006 - 8:37am
#26
Quote:
Originally posted by: Chase
McMasters:
Part# 6870K61
http://www.mcmaster.com/nav/enter.asp?partnum=6870K61&pagenum=327
$282.69, but you also need a cheap pressure gauge, drain plug, and hose fittings.
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2005 VW Golf PD-TDI
Hi Chase,
How did you pay $282.69 when it says $301.72? Did you get some sort of discount?
Alicia
May 12, 2006 - 9:00am
#27
Uh wow can I come over and see your garage?
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Greasy Jan 1021
May 12, 2006 - 10:09am
#28
Chase,
I think even Felix would be envious of how neat your garage is.
In my garage, I personally cant tell which is floor space and which is just more greasy clutter that is thrown in. I gotta get a picture of it to post this evening when I get home.
Im shooting for the Oscar Madison award.
Lee
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May 12, 2006 - 11:57am
#29
Nice!
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May 12, 2006 - 11:58am
#30
Quote:
Originally posted by: scuba1968girl
Quote:
Originally posted by: Chase
McMasters:
Part# 6870K61
http://www.mcmaster.com/nav/enter.asp?partnum=6870K61&pagenum=327
$282.69, but you also need a cheap pressure gauge, drain plug, and hose fittings.
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2005 VW Golf PD-TDI
Hi Chase,
How did you pay $282.69 when it says $301.72? Did you get some sort of discount?
Alicia
I guess they raised the price. I got mine last July.
Greasing + OCD = my garage. :)
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2005 VW Golf PD-TDI
May 13, 2006 - 4:01am
#31
Chase - I have a bag filter vessel from another mfg and am getting some bypass around the filter bag . I would like to see how the sealing system is designed for yours - ie photos with the top off and o-rings system and sealing inferfaces on basket and on the housing . - Thanks
May 13, 2006 - 4:42am
#32
Quote:
Originally posted by: rkpatt
Chase - I have a bag filter vessel from another mfg and am getting some bypass around the filter bag . I would like to see how the sealing system is designed for yours - ie photos with the top off and o-rings system and sealing inferfaces on basket and on the housing . - Thanks
Mine has nothing specific. The bags have either a ring or a plastic lip. I was worried about the sewn in ring, but it seemed to work as the pressure gauge would show a few PSI even when it was new. I do like the plastic lip style better as the seal is so obviously positive.
These are the guys who actually make the filter housing and sell them to McMasters:
http://www.drycleaningfilters.com/housings.htm
They sell the bags with the plastic lip, the guy said McMasters did not want that style as they were slightly more expensive. You can also order the housing directly from them, not sure on the price, though.
Finally, you'll notice that I have a GE whole house filter in series with the housing. It is after the housing. This feeds well into my OCD as it really confirms that the housing is doing its job ;)
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2005 VW Golf PD-TDI
May 13, 2006 - 7:53am
#33
Oh ,i see a stain on the insulation paper and the duct tape is not cut in a straight line .Deduct .0045 pionts
May 13, 2006 - 10:29am
#34
Quote:
Originally posted by: chasinthesun
Oh ,i see a stain on the insulation paper and the duct tape is not cut in a straight line .Deduct .0045 pionts
DAMN YOU!!! Must go out and cut new R-13...must obtain factory-cut strips of tape, specially ordered...
;)
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2005 VW Golf PD-TDI
May 13, 2006 - 12:53pm
#35
Chase that is way too neat man!! gotta pour some grease on the floor or something:)
Greaseburger
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May 13, 2006 - 2:14pm
#36
Wow. Can you actually get a car in the garage? That's a foreign concept up here...
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'84 300D
'83 240D
May 17, 2006 - 6:14am
#37
chase, would you mind to kinda give a step by step of how your filtering/dewatering process works? i think this is the neatest setup i've ever seen.
May 17, 2006 - 8:47am
#38
No problem.
1: Gather buckets and cubbies from suppliers.
2: Take a clean-ish bucket, 100 micron paint strainer insert, and pour each collected container into it, then dump in the metal open-top drum. (Keeps the big stuff out of the system all together)
3: Heat metal drum up to 150+ for at least a day, then allow to cool to room temp.
4: Heat metal drum back up to 100 and filter into one of the plastic drums, never taking from the bottom third of the metal drum.
5: Allow the plastic drum to settle for as long as possible. When needed, heat up to 100 and filter into the finished drum (the one with the hand pump), never taking from the bottom third.
6: Set up finished drum's hand pump so it does not draw from the bottom third.
Now even with all this, I've still had somewhat short car filter life. So I will start doing the baking soda treatment as soon as I get my conical-bottom 60 gallon tank. It seems wax is clogging the filter and not melting off fast enough.
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2005 VW Golf PD-TDI
May 17, 2006 - 9:35am
#39
Quote:
Originally posted by: Chase
Quote:
Originally posted by: rkpatt
Chase - I have a bag filter vessel from another mfg and am getting some bypass around the filter bag . I would like to see how the sealing system is designed for yours - ie photos with the top off and o-ring system and sealing inferfaces on basket and on the housing . - Thanks
Mine has nothing specific. The bags have either a ring or a plastic lip. I was worried about the sewn in ring, but it seemed to work as the pressure gauge would show a few PSI even when it was new. I do like the plastic lip style better as the seal is so obviously positive.
These are the guys who actually make the filter housing and sell them to McMasters:
http://www.drycleaningfilters.com/housings.htm
They sell the bags with the plastic lip, the guy said McMasters did not want that style as they were slightly more expensive. You can also order the housing directly from them, not sure on the price, though.
Finally, you'll notice that I have a GE whole house filter in series with the housing. It is after the housing. This feeds well into my OCD as it really confirms that the housing is doing its job ;)
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2005 VW Golf PD-TDI
Chase - Here are the photos of my bag filter vessel . Lid o-ring is out for cleaning . It is dirty because I haven't used it for a couple of months . I have temporarily switched to gravity fed bags until I can figure why the ( slight) bypass was happening . Maybe add a spring loaded hold-down system in the top . ? -
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May 17, 2006 - 10:24am
#40
So that O-Ring on the basket should be sealing against the lip in the housing, right? My basket doesn't have that and also doesn't have a vertical flange like yours does. My basket serves no sealing purpose and just sits on the housing lip. That vertical flange on the basket worries me as the bag would seal inside it, but maybe allow oil to seep between the flange and the housing?
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2005 VW Golf PD-TDI
May 17, 2006 - 10:37am
#41
Chase - you are correct about the 0-ring seating on that inner ring in the filter housing . There are only 2 places for bypass to occur - the basket seal , and the bag ring seal . I am thinking that some sort spring loaded bag-basket hold-down would help a lot . Would you please post similar photos of yours ? - Thanks
May 18, 2006 - 5:11am
#42
I'll take some pics this weekend, but here is the diagram from the manufacturer. Notice that the filter bag's seal lip servers the purpose of the metal version your basket has. The basket in the diagram just sits down flat on the housing lip:
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2005 VW Golf PD-TDI
June 20, 2006 - 5:43am
#43
Quote:
Originally posted by: Chase
I'll take some pics this weekend, but here is the diagram from the manufacturer. Notice that the filter bag's seal lip servers the purpose of the metal version your basket has. The basket in the diagram just sits down flat on the housing lip:
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2005 VW Golf PD-TDI
Chase - I sue wish that I could find out where the bybass is occuring . I just purchased a couple of the those super seal type bags to maybe at least help with the bag to basket seal from mcmaster.com and will give them one last try . If it doesn't work then its on to 2 GE water filters with 5 micron cartricges or another design of bag filter vessel if find one cheap .
June 25, 2006 - 10:00am
#44
Chase, did you try a 3/4" filter housing before your 1" or did you just buy the 1" from other's experience or your own. I'm waiting to rcv my housing......I bought the 6870K58. Do you recommend I send it back, or just deal with slow filtering. I bought it because my pump is 3/4"....for now.....seems to me I'll wait less with 1". By the way it's good to know you. Paul Chace
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In advance of your help, ...........thank you !
January 3, 2007 - 9:17am
#45
Bumping this ,liked the look of that one filtering setup ,very nice.I was thinking of a stainless cabinet they use for an attachment to a brand of bbq pitt they sell at Academy ,its basically a sink with attachments for a garden hose .Put my filters AND PUMP inside and pour the veggie into the drain of the unit after turning the pump on.That stainless you can keep cleaner easier and would look good as a cabinet to hide all the hardware.
May 3, 2007 - 7:40am
#46
bump
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1994 Ford F250 NA 7.3 - Homebuilt WVO conversion
May 3, 2007 - 9:06am
#47
Quote:
Originally posted by: Chase
OK, let me try this again.
I'm going for the Felix Ungar award:
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2005 VW Golf PD-TDI
Hi Felix
Did you ever think of puting a 55 gallon black garbage bag over the insulation that covers your barrel? that stuff is so fine you dont even know you are inhaling it and cutting up your lungs...
You have a very nice set up...
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May 3, 2007 - 9:37am
#48
Wifes Grand Caravan still fits in the garage.
Winter application has a bike pump to push grease out of vessel.
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that price for the drums is WAY HIGH!! Free to very cheap in most places.
Here is my filtration... I no longer use the hand pump... to slow. http://www.bonzrus.com/Family/Pictures/VegCar/FilterSYS.jpg
http://www.bonzrus.com/Family/MazolaBenz.htm
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1987 MB 300SDL "Mazola Benz"
Liberals are like Slinkies...not really good for anything...but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.