New to Forums, a few questions on getting a 2006 F250 6.0L converting to WVO
August 4, 2012 - 9:52pm
Hello All, I am new to the forums. I am currently getting a gool deal on a 2006 Ford F250 XL 6.0L V8 Diesel Truck (all white), purchased by the parks and rec department and only used by me (when I worked for the parks and rec department), anyways no accidents, no damage, has 187k miles, but all proper maintence was done. The City usually either sells them cheap to us before they go out and buy a new vehicle, or straight on ebay. Its a salvage title due to it being used by the government. I was wondering how much of a challenge it would be to install the conversion kit and make my own fuel? I was wondering if there is another person out there, that did it with a similar truck. I am looking for the following,
1. Cost for the kit (I saw $2250 on this site, a bit steep, but for free fuel it will eventually work out)
2. Cost of filtration, for example how much will it cost to filter the grease, how bad is it to remove grease from water? I am currently talking to five guys burgers and fries about getting their oil but it is stored in a outside container. Also how long will it take me to filter the grease?
3. Cost of maintence of using WVO instead of Diesel?
Thanks guys, I only plan on getting the truck if I can even get the WVO, due to diesel being $4/gallon here, and the F250 I noticed got 13city/16hwy and that is being generous, it was worse when hauling! Thanks again, I was refered by a friend to come here.
August 5, 2012 - 6:47pm
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Should add that I have less than $100 in my filter system.
BTW, There is a learning curve for learning how to handle gallons and gallons of WVO withut spillling it all over the place. Kitty Litter is your friend.
August 6, 2012 - 12:08pm
#3
I only plan on getting the truck if I can even get the WVO
Secure your oil source before getting the truck.
1. Cost for the kit (I saw $2250 on this site
Highly recommended unless you can homemade your kit.
2. Cost of filtration, for example how much will it cost to filter the grease, how bad is it to remove grease from water? I am currently talking to five guys burgers and fries about getting their oil but it is stored in a outside container. Also how long will it take me to filter the grease?
Cost of filtration depends on how you are going to do it. I started mine 5 years ago. I cannot call mine filtration stuffs a system because
there is no pipes/hoses connected together. Still the same way today.
The key of the process is SETTLE/HEAT/FILTER/SETTLE.
I collect oil in cubes and let them sit outside for weeks to SETTLE.
I found a used 4.5-5 gal used AL cooking container somewhere in the house. Installed a 1000W water heater element and a valve (drain)
near the bottom of the container. This is used to HEAT the 4.5-5 gal oil for 18-20 minutes until the container is HOT to touch (around 200F).
I place a mesh strainer at the top of the container to catch debris.
I had a PVC bucket (something like 8 gal? that was used to hold chemical for pool) with lid cover.
I made a hole on the cover, big enough to let a FILTER bag pass through and hold the bag in an upright position.
I put three 1-micron bag in series (one into the other). The HOT oil would be drained into this bucket through the filter bags.
I had a 15 gal container with drain valve near the bottom. The filtered oil would be poured into this container for SETTLING.
After settling for 3-4 days, I drain the oil back into clean cubes for SETTLING again and storage until I use them on my truck.
So I proceed 12-15 gal at once and I try to do it twice a week. It depends on collection and consumption.
I change one filter bag for every 40-45 gal of oil.
After you have your filtration set up the cost of filtration would be the cost of filter bags and the cost of electricity to heat the oil.
If you don't get pay to do the filtration then the overall cost would be minimal.
After this stage feel free to upgrade/design it to a SYSTEM that fits you needs. You can add pumps, heater control, centri--- etc.
I am still fine with my filtration stuffs. May be one day I build my SYSTEM!
3. Cost of maintence of using WVO instead of Diesel?
Have to change your veggie filter more frequently than diesel filter, depending on how good is your filtration process.
Veggie lift pump failure, valve failure and etc. as system gets old.
The cost of this when compare with the money you save on the diesel pump station is nothing, IMO.
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A lot of us just let a new cuboie set for a couple of weeks to let the water settle to the bottom. It's not clear water, more like "coffee w/ cream" color. A centrifuge will positively seperate water, but they tend to be costly equipment.
My filter system is merely a manifold of four 5-micron household "water" filters powered by a 1' dirty water pump. The grease is heated in a 12-gal drum on top of a propane Turkey Fryer. I heat to 100-degrees, then shut it down and pump it out of the drum and through the filters. It is equipment similar to a couple of others I've seen. With it I can filter 50 gal of oil in about 3 hours.
On good source for oil is places that do a Fri Night Fish Fry. I go all year on 5-gal/week from an Italian Restaurant doing a fish fry, and I have to trde off a little of it or it'd take over my storage space. Lots of folks here drive a lot more miles than I do.
The only fuel/related maintenance mt 93 Dodge 250 has needed was a new injection pump a few months ago. It was expensive, but the truck is getting on in years and the old pump may likely have "had the bisquit" due to age instead of WVO.That's my whole story; over 4 years of towing a big boat cross-country, and local driving, using an old truck I drove home to Illinois from Florida.
Nick
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