Non-diesel engine question.
May 27, 2004 - 7:36am
I know you cannot use grease in a "standard" car, like my 1999 Saturn SC2. Does anyone know of any resources that talk about why? I started looking around on Google, but haven't found anything too helpful.
I was wondering if it is a matter of further refining the oil, or if there is absolutely no way it can be done. If it is theoretically possible I may have to do some experimenting and learning.
Thanks for any information!
May 27, 2004 - 1:54pm
#2
MY CRAZY GRAMPA PUT VEGGIE OIL IN HIS LAWN MOWER IN PLACE OF REAL MOTOR OIL, THAT RIDING MOWER SMELLED LIKE VEGGIE
May 30, 2004 - 10:12am
#3
You can also convert a Gasoline engine to Propane. My brother converted his "monster" mudding Jeep Wrangler which has a 1990 model Cherokee Engine in it a month ago. He gets about the same mileage per gallon, but Propane costs less. Plus he can divert it and heat up his food on the trail. It cost him about $500 for the conversion parts and about $200 for the propane tank.
May 31, 2004 - 5:20pm
#4
Horses, the original ATV.
June 1, 2004 - 8:16am
#5
>You can also convert a Gasoline engine to Propane. My >brother converted his "monster" mudding Jeep Wrangler
Here are some fun propane powered toys. They even have a propane 4x4 like your brother....
http://www.alternatefuelsracing.com/
(turn down the sound before clicking the above link. The page has annoying music)
- joey
June 24, 2004 - 9:14am
#6
Ive done the alcohol route, first with a top fuel drag car(which are made for it) then with three project cars(which are not!) . Unless you have a cheap way of providing enough heat to run the still and a cheap way of making a double collum still...and you want to be legal by getting the atf permit for it too. You will finnally have the fun task of soaking almost all your engine parts in alcohol to see which ones will turn to mush,rust,or warp.THEN you better make sure all the complex sugars are out of it cause they wreak havoc on rings (R.I.P. project car #2) .....anyway....go buy a used diesel, and pay for the conversion kit....if that is too easy pay someone to kick you in the head....it will be simpler than the alcohol
June 24, 2004 - 3:49pm
#7
reply to anon - "silly silly silly'
A diesel engine works by compressing the air in the cylinder and injecting the fuel as a very fine spray into the compressed hot air.
The air is heated by molecular friction caused by the rapid compression of the intake air on the compression stroke.
The fuel is a liquid and to all intents and purposes cannot be compressed.
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Silly silly silly,
Gasoline and Grease are entirely different creatures. Diesel engines work by compressing a fuel until it explodes. They have compression ratios many times that of Gas Engines. Try to put Gas (or other highly volatile fuels) in your diesel, the fuel explode too soon, provide too little lubrication, engine ruined, poor thing...
Gas engines work by mixing fuel with air (carburateur) then compressing it a little, and providing a spark.
The only alternative for Gasoline is Alcohol, for which several changes need to be made.
1. Changing the Fuel/Air ratio so it doesn't burn too hot.
2. Nickel plating your fuel tank and steel parts of your catalytic converter, so they don't rust (from the 5% water that is in "pure" alcohol)
Alcohol is not cheap either; It might be a long term solution, but it takes a ton of corn (and a lot of heat in the distilling, which could come off the exhaust manifold if someone wanted to get tricky) to make 87 gallons of Ethanol.
Grease is only cheap because it happens to be a waste product of our gluttenous society, which happens to like the taste of potatos dunked in searing oil.
You want to know of a good, long term travel vehicle? Bikes are okay, but horses are even better. They run off grass and water (available at your local pasture), and with proper care will make more of themselves before they get old and rusty.
How snazzy is that!!??