making the parts for 7.3 diy.

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Some of the parts I've made so far got a diy psd conversion.
Heated filter. Cat 1r0749 wrapped in 17 ft of 5/8 copper tubing.



Used boat tank and 5/8 alum heating coil I

Rolled.

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The plan is everything will be mounted in tool box. Only thing under hood will be tih termination and fuel lines going to test Ports.

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I must say sir you have some skills. Are you thinking about placing a temperature gauge right before the fuel port going into the engine? You’re going to need to know that information to keep everything running smoothly and safely. You also might want to look into getting a FPHE, and wrapping up the fuel lines too. The distance from the tool box and engine is pretty far away/ windy. Are you going to be using a homemade hose on hose or a hose in hose?
Do keep everyone up to date on your progress.
Thanks for sharing.

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Aluminum. Tih from box to engine then short runs of ptfe hose to the heads. Temp gauge at the t fitting. Pressure. Fitting in back.
going to make tih this wknd. A long enough tih in 3/4 hose should do the job of fphe. If temps are low will add fphe in rear before tih.

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JR:
Be carefull with the copper line around your filter. 
I noticed a "kink" in the copper. 
I would check that out on a regular bases. 
I know It is a real pain in the a$$ rolling that copper tubing.
What did you fill your tubing with prior to "rolling"?
We used salt and a small section of PVC to roll the copper. 
Once done, we had to clean out the salt very well.
Overall, doing this was a real PITA!

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Heated and reshaped the kink. It looks worse in pics than it is. It was salt filled.must have had a air pocket.did 2 flow tests passed real good.

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Air pockets suck!  We had one person down the stairs, one person at the top of the stairs and one person pouring the salt while the other two vibrated the hell our of it! 
I am currently comming up with a better / cleaner water exchanger for my wvo filter in my Powerstruggle...........
 
I just need 28 hours in a day.........

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The tank is cut. Heated pu installed. Hatch bolted in. and the tih fittings are ready to go.


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looking good. most of the fun and pride is making or putting the kit together. after that all you need is clean fuel

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NICE!
 
Nice clean work.......
 
Look miller, no Duct tape :-)
 
Clean work environment......
 
Painted fittings.
 
I love JR!
 
He is a man after my own heart...............

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JR:
I just R&R'd my 80-gallon tank in order to change out some internal items as well as clean it out.
The tank and guts were PERFECT with very little debris. 
This one problem I experienced will be the same problem that will be-fall you.  When you take off your diamond plate cover in the future, be prepared to have larger diameter self tapping screws on hand.  The existing holes in the aluminum tank will strip.  I went from size 10 self tappers to size 12 tappers today.  I also stopped using high temp gasket for that was the bulk of my debris in the tank.  I cut a gasket out of EPDM rubber roofing membrane (that I had laying around in my shop) instead.
I'll let you know how it holds up.
Your work is nice and clean.
Pay no attention to the ball breaking I do with Miller.  It is done with great affection and admiration towards him.
He has taught me alot.
He has helped me a gret deal  (even without any strings attached.......go figure.) 
 
Good luck and keep up the nice work.

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Got a day off to get most of it installed today..
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All thats left is chrck valves and lines to heads. And some wiring.

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Wiring done. pumps and valves work.
Heres the control box.

And the rough drawings of how this is done.

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A few lines on engine left and i'm done

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Good Morning,
I didn't see diesel lines in your diagram. ???
 
Looking forward to see the truck start greasing!!!

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Diesel lines = red lines from fuel bowl. From tank to bowl is untouched.

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Just trying to learn.
Would like to see how you switchover between diesel/veggie/purge on the first (top) diagram.
So I am looking for switching valves for feed and return for diesel/veggie on the first diagram.
Thanks.

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GC Kit  + 3rd Tank WVO(80%)/RUG(20-30%)  +  Co-Pilot 
3-Tank Operation managed by Co-Pilot: Blending(warm up) / Veggie(hot run) / Diesel(purge for next start)
Smarty Jr  40/70/100 hp (Timing Map Modification)
 

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No switching valves. No return.
It's a deadhead, check valve design. Vegistroke style.
The ford uses fuel rails cast in the head. One end is fed diesel the other is plugged. By putting a check valve on diesel line after filter, vo cant go that way.
Remove the 2 plugs from heads feed vo there. At back of systsm put another CV before vo filter, stops d2 from going that way. Put a 2 port valve tee'd in to vo line, valve opens heads flush out. It's 2 independent fuel systems that75 psi from pump foward, no air leaks this way, just drips to look for. So when vo pump is on d2 is powered off. It's a easy simple conversion without all the clutter under the hood.

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did you get your info and parts from www.WVODesigns ?

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just to let you know. I have use fphe on my fords and they restrick fuel pressure. and when your pressure drops you have poly in the fphe. this has happened after 20,000 miles.

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JR,
So you have one switch to control diesel pump, one switch to control veggie pump and one switch to control purge valve.
I got it. ( I think)
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3-Tank Operation managed by Co-Pilot: Blending(warm up) / Veggie(hot run) / Diesel(purge for next start)
Smarty Jr  40/70/100 hp (Timing Map Modification)
 

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I got the design from people with lots of vo miles and expirence over at frybrid/the diesel stop and bft forums. It's design is from the original fn74/Vegistroke system.most parts come from discount hydraulic supply , mcmaster Carr and ebay. Wvo designs uses the same desidn in his plans just not enough heat..
Thats the switching system, nice and simple.

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so your regulating the fuel pressure coming out of the fuel pumps?  and you have no fuel returns to the tanks?

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No return from engine. Just a flush valve tee'd into vo line for a 10 sec flush.

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what pressure are you going to set the fuel regulator at?

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Going to run both at 70-75 psi. Some have gone into the 80-90 range.

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so if your deadheading with no return and you set the psi to 70 and at idel your truck needs 35 psi. you dont think your going to burnout the pump? or blow a hose or clamp off?

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All the hose is rated way over that. Stock it's running 65 after the bowl. And with the split shot injectors theres spikes upward of 150 psi at start up. It's a proven design many are running it. The most common failure is cheap 1/8" cv's being used in the heads. Thats why the bigger cv moved back further in the d2 line.

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where did you get your check valves? i bought 3/8" chec valves from ebay and have them on all fuel lines on all my powerstrokes

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Mcmaster carr there big . 7775k53 flourelastomer seal viton equivalent.

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As far as burning the pump out it feeds the regulator witch has a return on it to bypass excess pressure. So it will always have vo moving thru it.

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jr, my email is veggieburner@Hotmail.com   could you email me please

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JR, I want to thank you for all the info and links. You are the man.... I got my 2000 f-250 set up like the veggiestroke. to night i bled all the air out and got the truck running on diesel and veggie both. again I thank you very much...

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Glad the info helped.
Let's see some pics of the install.

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sorry i didnt take alot of pics. I will on my other 2 powerstrokes..




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You got that done quick, mine took all summer working on it as time allowed. I never thought of real hydraulic line on the engine, the summit braided lines kept leaking at the diy ends had lines made up with crimped ends. Here's the engine work on mine.

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I dont do HIH. and i left the stock diesel alone.. as far as getting it done, I have been doing this for 11 years 582,000 veggie miles. so i have most of the parts to do all 4 of my powerstroke. I put my check valve back by my veggie pump so i can Prime and flush my veggie lines.. your looks great and again thanks for all the info. I had to do this because of the poly in my diesel fuel line after the fuel bowl in my excursion. this will solve that problem

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Hey Miller!
 
Where's the duct  tape???????????
 
Ah jeeez!

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I only use duck tape on your truck

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I got the duck tape pics covered. Look at first pics, filter lines were taped shut, and turbo taped off during install. We have all colors available, black, blue, grey, red, and camo. Can't live in south with out a large assortment.

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Camo Duct tape?  Where?  I want some................
 
I was taught that a real man only needs a can of WD-40, a roll of bailing wire, and some Duct tape in order to fix anything!!!!!!!!!!

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Walmart, basspro, ebay has it.

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I was taught that a real man only needs a can of WD-40, a roll of bailing wire, and some Duct tape in order to fix anything!!!!!!!!!!
 
That's MacGyver. LOL

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GC Kit  + 3rd Tank WVO(80%)/RUG(20-30%)  +  Co-Pilot 
3-Tank Operation managed by Co-Pilot: Blending(warm up) / Veggie(hot run) / Diesel(purge for next start)
Smarty Jr  40/70/100 hp (Timing Map Modification)
 

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maiden voyage this week. 1600 veggie miles and no problems. everything ran great.... now time to do the other 2 powerstrokes.

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over 5000 veggie miles and running GREAT... i wish i would have done this years ago. I think I have used maybe 5 gallons of diesel

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Had a few small leaks.except for that all is running well.

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